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[CnlPepper]

http://games.slashdo...mmunity-warfare

If you are not familiar with slashdot it has a *massive* geek centric readership - pretty much a large part of your target audience.

Well it looks like your intransigence and inability to communicate is now rippling across the internet.I dearly hope you take away from this that you need to actively discuss with your community not impose your will on it.

Please, please, please don't get so hung up on your own ideas that you can't accept that some of them are not good.

We as a community play this game more than you do, we understand it better than you do. Please stop dismissing us,

[Deathlike]

Oh slashdot.

It's been a while since I recall relevance, but when it does, it goes to an extreme.

Things can only escalate from here...

[Inconspicuous]

Just saw MWO on Slashdot.... Good job devs!

Edited by Inconspicuous, 31 August 2013 - 02:10 PM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Definitely not good. lol

[Abivard]

guys, they are all on vacation again this weekend... they take worldwide holidays you know...

They will be back sometime next week, maybe.

Anyways, that article is from someone on an island.

[RedDragon]

Isn't that article just a copy+paste from some other news articles?

[Donnie Silveray]

... that post is highly missleading.

3rd person action shooter? Really? So basically taking it away we're suddenly back to the pure essence of the game? 3rd person is entirely optional and utterly useless for combat, I haven't seen more than a dozen people using it for anything other than looking at their pretty mechs.

sell an item for real money that had a significant impact on gameplay

Such as? What? Gold ammo? High performance mechs? What? What 'item'? The author doesn't specify leading an intent to misslead. I haven't seen a single thing that was Pay2Win in this game yet and virtually all hero mechs are simple a re-arrangement of hardpoints. Even if you count consumables as so called Pay2Win they hardly make a big difference, packing all those coolant flushes don't flush enough heat to make a win assured. Hardly a scary sight. The only thing of value I can see in this article is the truth behind communication. Otherwise the article strikes me as a disgruntled crybaby throwing around baseless accusations. If you're going to critique a company and game you should do it right, not hide behind vague pretenses and assumptions.

Edited by Donnie Silveray, 31 August 2013 - 05:33 PM.

[DocBach]

CnlPepper, on 31 August 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

http://games.slashdo...mmunity-warfare

If you are not familiar with slashdot it has a *massive* geek centric readership - pretty much a large part of your target audience.

nerds aren't the title audience, or else they'd be trying to make us battletech fans happy

[RedThirteen]

Donnie Silveray, on 31 August 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Stuff

Please re-read it carefully. CAREFULLY. The writer has fluffed it somewhat with rhetoric and (ok internal dictionary's abandoned me here so I'll improvise) (no wait it's back hooray!) hyperbole, but poking through the words shows that they're trying to stick to the events that transpired. That item for real world money thing was referring to the cool shot and air strike consumables, etc.
Furthermore, the game has been shifted to a third-person arcade shooter and now the community is rioting So you're wrong and your comprehension might need working on.

Edited by RedThirteen, 31 August 2013 - 06:04 PM.

[Hexenhammer]

Poor Slashdot. Reduced to second hand hit pieces no wonder its irrelevant.

Edited by Hexenhammer, 31 August 2013 - 07:08 PM.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Wow... talk about circling the drain. MWO truly has hit rock bottom when /. is reporting on how much it sucks. That means you pissed off casual players who might have thought MWO was something worth investing in while exposing every little glitch and problem from disgruntled posters to PGI's target audience (aka the lowest common denominator). The only hope now is to claim the game is in "beta" and not reply to them for months.... Oh wait! PGI does that to paying customers already.

Edited by lockwoodx, 31 August 2013 - 09:30 PM.

[Here5y]

:-)
I love Slashdot , but I hate to see MWO being presented in a bad way on Slashdot. On the other hand, the Slashdot Article just hits the nails on the head.
PGI stop doing stuff the community , your player base or short - the guys who pay indirectly your income do NOT want.

[King Curt]

CnlPepper, on 31 August 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

http://games.slashdo...mmunity-warfare

If you are not familiar with slashdot it has a *massive* geek centric readership - pretty much a large part of your target audience.

Well it looks like your intransigence and inability to communicate is now rippling across the internet.I dearly hope you take away from this that you need to actively discuss with your community not impose your will on it.

Please, please, please don't get so hung up on your own ideas that you can't accept that some of them are not good.

We as a community play this game more than you do, we understand it better than you do. Please stop dismissing us,

Stop including me in your "we" there buckaroo. The Slashdot post linked is baseless and ridiculous. I'll let one response in the article thread speak for itself.

"I thought the article said a person could toggle between first and third person. Wasn't that always the case in the Mech games? At least I think I recall that in MechWarrior Mercenaries."

There's a guy just having a good time with a great game and is probably pretty dumbfounded by all of the stupidity oozing from these fetid wastes of writing skills they call articles.

And WE, the people who still have fun every time we play, and who weather the changes not with whining but with adapting, are not the ones for whom this minority of dozens speak.

[Super Mono]

King Curt, on 01 September 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Stop including me in your "we" there buckaroo. The Slashdot post linked is baseless and ridiculous. I'll let one response in the article thread speak for itself.

"I thought the article said a person could toggle between first and third person. Wasn't that always the case in the Mech games? At least I think I recall that in MechWarrior Mercenaries."

There's a guy just having a good time with a great game and is probably pretty dumbfounded by all of the stupidity oozing from these fetid wastes of writing skills they call articles.

And WE, the people who still have fun every time we play, and who weather the changes not with whining but with adapting, are not the ones for whom this minority of dozens speak.

You must be really enjoying it if you use words like "weather" to describe how you take to it.

And not everyone is fine with being blatantly lied to. If you can't understand why people are so upset over this then you have a serious lack of either memory or empathy.

[AlexEss]

To be honest i wee-wee´d more journalistic knowledge each morning during my upper secondary years then the author seem to have ever have been in possession of.

So all in all i can not take it serious at all. I think i have seen re-tweets with more research in them.

Sadly this is the price of modern tech.. anyone with a keyboard and the ability to put together letters thing they are a journalist.

Not that it explains what went wrong with MW:O´s marketing dept... But two wrongs does not make one right

[Super Mono]

AlexEss, on 01 September 2013 - 05:42 AM, said:

To be honest i wee-wee´d more journalistic knowledge each morning during my upper secondary years then the author seem to have ever have been in possession of.

So all in all i can not take it serious at all. I think i have seen re-tweets with more research in them.

Sadly this is the price of modern tech.. anyone with a keyboard and the ability to put together letters thing they are a journalist.

Not that it explains what went wrong with MW:O´s marketing dept... But two wrongs does not make one right

**** sounds like a pretty apt description for the amount you'd know about anything.

[AlexEss]

??? Elaborate if you would be so kind.

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

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Edited by IV Amen, 01 September 2013 - 05:55 AM.

[Team Leader]

Very vague article, didn't go into much detail about what is actually going wrong with the games development. Thats probably worse than being precise. People will just read "the devs dont like their paying customers and the game is bad" instead of something like "the development team isnt very keen on communication and has gone back on statements such as: __, __, and ___". Its strictly negative generalities in that article.

[Corvus Antaka]

CnlPepper, on 31 August 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

http://games.slashdo...mmunity-warfare

If you are not familiar with slashdot it has a *massive* geek centric readership - pretty much a large part of your target audience.

Well it looks like your intransigence and inability to communicate is now rippling across the internet.I dearly hope you take away from this that you need to actively discuss with your community not impose your will on it.

Please, please, please don't get so hung up on your own ideas that you can't accept that some of them are not good.

We as a community play this game more than you do, we understand it better than you do. Please stop dismissing us,

ie, we, the ??? crowd, didn't get the game we wanted, now we are going to make blogs, create articles on slashdot, and blackmail PGI to make the game we want, or else we will act as trolls across the internet to try to insure this game fails, because we don't really love mechwarrior, we are just sad losers who want to crush this IP, because no one wants to wait 10 more years for another mech game.

Yeah, I see whats going on here.

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 01 September 2013 - 09:57 AM.